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SmokinJs Arthie
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Posted - 2014.04.30 20:23:00 -
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This notification system is terrible idea. It just has abuse written all over it.
Say you and 4 of your corp mates have your alts get into bombers and put them in small and medium plexes all over the warzone, most likely some backwater system. And then it would go a little something like this:
Alt enters plex GÇô notification
cloak
decloak GÇô notification
15 secs
cloak
decloak GÇô notification
15 sec
cloak
decloak GÇô notification
15 sec
cloak
decloak GÇô notification
15 sec
cloak
ThatGÇÖs 5 notifications in just over a minute. Plus 4 other buddies thatGÇÖs ~25 notifications/min. That is almost a notification once every 2 secs. Plus others doing this and actual PvPers. This is just a receipe for **** tsunami. That GÇ£intelGÇ¥ channel would look worse than Jita local.
I like the idea of have an infinity point within the plex, like the ESS. Have the outpost point a ship that is within 45km of the beacon, while still making the capture point 30km. This helps keep the character from jumping in and out of point/plex capturing rage at will.
Make it so the outpost itself is targeting the ship making it unable to cloak. Limit the outpost to being able only to target 1 enemy ship at a time. This is so that if there is a group fight inside the plex the whole fleet isnGÇÖt screwed if they cannot win the fight. And they have a chance to extract, except for 1 sacrificial lamb.
Once the plex is captured the outpost stops targeting the wartarget, allowing them to warp out.
Even this idea can easily be abuse. Defenders can stop fitting an point and go for an extra web or more tank. ItGÇÖs a video game. Nothing is going to be perfect. |
SmokinJs Arthie
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Posted - 2014.04.30 21:12:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I am not sure what these 4 people would try to accomplish.
Disinformation/reduces the ability of the opposing militia from being able to determine which is a real threat or just spam.
Cearain wrote:Every time they cloak the timer will roll back. They would make no lp. They would gain no occupancy.
These are backwater stationless systems. No would care about occupancy. Their mains will still make more than enough LP.
Cearain wrote:I guess if the enemy militia wanted to waste their time doing this that would be their prerogative but they would lose the war. Meanwhile militia that would have pilots holding plexes would win.
The only way they are going to lose the war is if they stop caring about their home systems.
Cearain wrote:Also keep in mind that ccp was talking about giving this intel in the form of a map not really notifications. So this behavior would really accomplish nothing.
If it is map form are they going to like the stats that lite up on the map? Such as ships killed in the last hour. The whole warzone will glow red. Those kind of stats will be somewhat useless since a plex only takes like 15 minutes. You are only going to catch them if they stay in a system for almost an hour. If it is GÇ£blipsGÇ¥ on the map when a plex is starting to be run the same tactic I showed earlier would create the same disformation and turn the map into a Led Zeppelin laser light show.
Estella Osoka wrote:Players soon learn to ignor the notifications, and then the whole concept is moot.
And everyone will go back the system currently is use of having intel channels.
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SmokinJs Arthie
Justified Chaos
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Posted - 2014.04.30 22:31:00 -
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Cearain wrote:If ccp implemented the changes I suggest i would be back in faction war immediately.
I've read enough. |
SmokinJs Arthie
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:30:00 -
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There are some changes coming with the summer expansion. At the FW roundtable Fozzie revealed changes coming in the Summer Expansion.
-Cannot cloak within capture radius of the button.
-Rats will respawn so you'll need a DPS ship to plex.
-Large Outposts being introduced (standard plex spawn rather than random)
I am a fan of the no cloaking withing plexes as the new T2 cov-ops venture, the Prospect, would get annoying very fast.
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SmokinJs Arthie
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Posted - 2014.05.02 20:43:00 -
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Andre Vauban wrote:SmokinJs Arthie wrote:There are some changes coming with the summer expansion. At the FW roundtable Fozzie revealed changes coming in the Summer Expansion.
-Cannot cloak within capture radius of the button.
-Rats will respawn so you'll need a DPS ship to plex.
-Large Outposts being introduced (standard plex spawn rather than random)
I am a fan of the no cloaking withing plexes as the new T2 cov-ops venture, the Prospect, would get annoying very fast.
The new change, won't do anything at all. Here are the easy steps. Sit right at the edge of capture radius and aligned away from button. When you see something on short scan, move full speed ahead, and then cloak. Problem solved. This will take farmers all of an additional 10 seconds.
Yeah, it's a step in the right direction. I was kinda hoping the would make the decloaking area larger then the capture point, say like 45km. At least they will still have to be fairly attentive in their efforts. |
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